This, Mk3 Supra, or Z31 300ZX?/DOTS

"HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute" (hondoyota)
01/22/2018 at 09:03 • Filed to: On the road again..., Ask Oppo

Mazda RX-7 seen on the road, Z and Supra pic from the internet. Which one would you rather have?

DISCUSSION (24)

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
01/22/2018 at 09:14

MKIII. every time.

interstate366, now In The Industry > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
01/22/2018 at 09:32

The Supra with a 1JZ.

yitznewton > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
01/22/2018 at 09:34

God that Supra is beautiful. The FB never looked good, not in the 80s and not today.

red014 > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
01/22/2018 at 09:57

Mk3 all day, every day. Even with the when-not-if head gasket issue. Consider it expensive recommended maintenance.

Although change it to an FC RX-7 and we can have a conversation.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > interstate366, now In The Industry
01/22/2018 at 09:59

So the early ‘90s Turbo model then

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > red014
01/22/2018 at 10:00

When I get mine I’m 2JZ-GTE and R154 swapping it so that shouldn’t be a problem.

Quattro-luvr, Powered by Datsun & Stinger > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
01/22/2018 at 10:00

As a Datsun fan boy, Mk 3 Supra!

I think you’d have more Smiles per Mile. The Z31 is a tough motor to work on. It has approximately 4, 318 miles of vacuum hoses.

Plus GTE straight six, straight sixes sounds amazing.

RT > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
01/22/2018 at 10:10

The RX-7.

It’s a more involving experience than the other two and looks fantastic.

cbell04 > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
01/22/2018 at 10:25

My best friend at the age 16's 1st car was a turbo 1990 mk3. I’ve loved them ever since and don’t know how we didn’t crash it.

Aaron M - MasoFiST > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
01/22/2018 at 10:29

Stock or mild, the Supra. The one persistent issue, the head gasket, is solved by retorquing the head bolts to an improved spec. Otherwise the M engines are pretty indestructible.

If you’re going to rip out the driveline, the RX-7 has the better chassis, and V8 swap kits are plentiful and cheap. To drive an FB with the rotary usually only makes sense if you really love rotaries.

The 300zx is likely the cheapest of the three (though there are probably plenty of non-running FBs), but I wouldn’t buy a Z-car with a V6.

wafflesnfalafel > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
01/22/2018 at 10:34

Toyota, but how about in silver?

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Quattro-luvr, Powered by Datsun & Stinger
01/22/2018 at 10:48

This. My uncle has a Z31 and originally planned to just build the engine but decided it was too much and swapped in the motor from his totaled Z32 twin turbo. Now that he managed to blow the engine, he’s planning to LS swap it and give it to his son, aka my cousin. To race him,I’m getting a Mk3 Supra and 2JZ-GTE/R154 swapping it.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Aaron M - MasoFiST
01/22/2018 at 10:52

I’m actually getting a Mk3 Supra and 2JZ-GTE/R154 swapping it. I was thinking about the LS/FB swap but it’s too similar to my cousin’s LS swapped Z31 that I plan on racing.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > RT
01/22/2018 at 10:55

I beg to differ. Mk3 Supras have better handling and are a blast to drive. That, and I think they’re better looking than the FBs. But I respect different opinions from time to time.

Aaron M - MasoFiST > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
01/22/2018 at 11:11

Gotcha. Nothing wrong with the Supra, but it’s the heaviest by far of the three.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Aaron M - MasoFiST
01/22/2018 at 11:20

Yeah. When I do the swap I also gotta strip out unnecessary stuff, like the radio. If I want music, I’ll bring my Harman Kardon and connect my phone to it and blast from Spotify

interstate366, now In The Industry > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
01/22/2018 at 11:41

In Japan, yeah. The USDM ones still had the 7M.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > interstate366, now In The Industry
01/22/2018 at 11:44

I thought it was here too? Ah fuck.

interstate366, now In The Industry > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
01/22/2018 at 11:48

Nope, the 1JZ was never sold here in any form. Although in your defense, there were only like 9 90-92 Supra Turbos sold in the US.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > interstate366, now In The Industry
01/22/2018 at 11:53

Damn. Thanks for clearing up though

Shour, Aloof and Obnoxious > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
01/22/2018 at 13:39

Tough choices. I love the SA and the Mark III so very much. (I grew up liking the Z31, but my desire for one has waned with age.) Can I have both? Mark III for a DD, and the SA for weekending/twisty-roading.

HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute > Shour, Aloof and Obnoxious
01/22/2018 at 14:08

The Mk3 is actually perfect for both. Reliable, good looking, is fast and has better handling than the other cars. I’m gonna buy one when I get money/ a job/ a life lol

RT > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
01/22/2018 at 15:09

I have a friend who’s got a Mk3 Supra and it looks fantastic, so you’re not wrong.

I still prefer the RX-7 though. It’s harder to live with, but more rewarding imo. After all, it’s technically still based on the RX-7 that started it all.

MM54 > HondoyotaE38: A Japanese and German Collab...wait a minute
01/22/2018 at 17:54

I’ve already got an FB so let’s go with the MkIII Supra - it’s one of my favorites for sure.